Lemon Drops and Lap Dances with Hypnotiq (Aka. Lori Rene)

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Lori Rene (aka Hypnotiq) once worked at a Strip Club. As a result, she learned much more than just the mystic art of seduction. Everything she knows about succeeding in love, life, and business was learned from that experience. She shares all of this in her podcast Lemon Drops and Lap Dances. Lori is now a happily married military spouse. She is a wonderful mother of four children and is always happy to share her faith and experiences to help others. Connect with Lori here!

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Transcript

Lap Dances and Lemon Drops with Lori Rene

Jared Easley: [00:00:00] Hey starve, the doubts listeners. This is Jared easily. One of your hosts. I'm real excited to let you know that we're going to do a star of the doubts holiday live audio spectacle on December 22nd at 2:00 PM Eastern. And this is going to be on the new wisdom app. We're really excited about testing this app out.

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So we beg of you to check that out or to consider checking that out and look forward to this episode with Lori Renee.

welcome back to starve the doubts. I'm one of your hoes. I'm Jared. And of [00:01:00] course joining me is miss Christine. How are you? I'm behaving. And today we have a long lost friend not lost, but we have a long for a friend of ours that we've known for several years. We have Laurie Renee, AK hypnotic. You're probably thinking, well, hypnotic, where does that name come from?

Oh, we're going to talk about that. See, once upon a time worked at a strip club, which I didn't even know when we met Laurie. Some of that stuff in the, in the closet girl, I see learn more. That's more than just the music artists production through the experience. In fact, everything she knows about how to succeed in love, life and business.

He learned from working at the club, she shares all of this in her podcast season one of lemon drops and lap dances. And now Lori is happily married. She's a military spouse. She's a wonderful mother of four children and is always happy to share her faith and experiences in an effort to help us. Lori, when I first heard your podcast, I was like, oh my gosh, we gotta get her on the show.

Number one, your friend, number two, you got a great story. So I thank you for lowering your standards, hanging out with Christina. Again. [00:02:00]

Lori Tupper: This is awesome. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. I appreciate 

Jared Easley: you. Oh, of course. And we always like to start off with an icebreaker and Christine, maybe you could kick us off this time.

Yeah. 

Ms. Christine: We've got a different one for you today. What was your song in the club?

What 

Lori Tupper: was my song in the club, you know what? It's going to be a shocker, but it was actually a corn song.

Yeah. I can't remember the actual name of it, but it's something about ring around the Rosie. We all fall down. I picked that song because I used to like, you know, climb up the pole and then like slide down during the all falls. Yeah. 

Jared Easley: Didn't know about that. We're going to have to explain some of this to Christine.[00:03:00]

All right. So we'll continue with the icebreakers. We do finish this sentence. Uh, Lori, you're going to love this one. My favorite thing about living in Nebraska is. 

Lori Tupper: Nothing.

Jared Easley: So many redeeming qualities around Nebraska here,

I'm guessing. And you've shared this on your podcast that you do have some, you have some friends and you've got, you know, a reasonable circle. 

Lori Tupper: That's probably the only thing that I love about Nebraska is the people that I've met here. There's a saying called Nebraska. Nice in is true. Like, there are some people here that are truly like, really nice.

Like our neighbors would, when it snowed, they clean off our driveway and the sidewalks and we wake up and everything's done and I'm like, oh, okay, thank you. I'd like bake them cookies. Yeah. It's really a nice [00:04:00] place to live, but it's just cold and there's really nothing out here outside of corn and beans.

Jared Easley: around 

Ms. Christine: Nebraska, all 

Lori Tupper: roads lead to 

Jared Easley: that makes me nervous and kind of cruising on Nebraska. 

Ms. Christine: Fair enough there. Finish that sentence. The key to being a successful little league mom is to. 

Lori Tupper: Sit far away from the stands. 

Ms. Christine: Oh, 

Jared Easley: don't support the little ones. Just

that. So you're not yelling at empires. 

Lori Tupper: Yeah. It's so you're not yelling at other parents to be, oh, it's a doggy dog world out here in the little. Uh, streets. It's [00:05:00] pretty, it's pretty dangerous. I can 

Jared Easley: relate. I did refereeing for a little kid's football this past season. And there were parents that ran on the field and yell at their child or another child.

It was, yeah, it was not good

anyway, so yeah, I I'm glad that you are a successful little league mom. We're going to do this or that. We're going to give you two choices. You pick one and maybe give us a short reason why you pick that one. And the first one is Marvel universe low-key versus Hawkeye. 

Lori Tupper: Don't do that. 

Ms. Christine: We went there.

Lori Tupper: Low-key definitely lucky. Yeah. He's our favorite. Obviously we dressed as low-key variants for Halloween this year and it was really fun. Our neighbors appreciate it. But yeah, we are huge Thor, Loki fan. So I have to go, [00:06:00]

Jared Easley: which is why they scraped your driveway.

They liked the low key. So, Hey, well look them up. 

Ms. Christine: We got another this or that, this or that plate scraping versus being ungrateful. 

Lori Tupper: Oh, somebody is listening to my podcast.

Being 

Jared Easley: ungrateful I 

Ms. Christine: do with a passion. Like that's probably the worst sound 

Lori Tupper: on next to my children crying, but yeah, it's pretty bad, but being grateful, I just don't like an ungrateful person. You just gotta be grateful for the things that God has given you in this world. And. Be 

Jared Easley: grateful for your Allen Iverson, jerseys, things like 

Lori Tupper: that 

Ms. Christine: because you never know.

You never know when someone's going to take one.[00:07:00]

let's talk about 

Jared Easley: how you, Laurie, Christine and myself met because people are listening to be like, this is an unlikely group and you have a story. You have a great story. I'm sure how we went. So I'd love to hear your version. 

Lori Tupper: I just, I mean, we all met on Blab, Christine and I, she Tonia and it was another chick.

I can't remember her name, but we were all just like vibing and here comes this dude, like, let me, let me, let me talk to, y'all just trying to talk to us well,

Jared Easley: You described me in a certain way, 

Lori Tupper: nerdy,

just up there, like, let me talk to y'all and then you got up there and you pass the vibe, Jack. It was good. Like we had a 

Ms. Christine: good time. 

Jared Easley: It helps Christina average or two 

Lori Tupper: [00:08:00] for the bottle.

Jared Easley: Isn't around anymore. I do think maybe a little, it was a little ahead of its time. 

Ms. Christine: I don't know. It definitely 

Jared Easley: was a fun thing while it lasted. And that is how we met and we managed to somehow still be friends and keep in touch. And that's a miracle night. I'm grateful for that. So I get, you gotta be a grateful person, right?

You can scrape your point.

Ms. Christine: You're a military spouse. But you didn't start out that way. He shared about this each do share about this in the club. Can you tell us about your background and how you ended up working at a strip club back in the day? 

Lori Tupper: Yeah. So it's not a happy story. I was a young child, mother, teen mom. I was homeless.

And so my, it took my son getting taken away from me. And he got taken away from me on his very first [00:09:00] birthday, which is devastating for a mother. And that was when I was like, you know what? I've got to figure this out. And I've got to get my life together. It's been quite a journey, but that's what led me to working in a startup.

Jared Easley: And that experience, um, as we kind of mentioned in the bio that you had some incredible lessons that now apply to a variety of areas in your life and business. Tell us a couple of stories of some things you learned from the strip club. 

Lori Tupper: Oh gosh, it would take forever. But one of the most valuable things that I've learned I think is probably listening and watching and observing people before kind of jumping in and.

And also just knowing your audience. I learned that because obviously corn I'm in Florida and I had to play corn, but just knowing your audience, knowing who you're talking to and knowing your circle as well, like knowing the people who are closest to you [00:10:00] because. Like the saying goes, you become like the five people you're around the most.

And so you want to keep the people around you leading you forward, you know, like pushing you towards what it is that you want to do in life. And as a recipient, Relationship because you should be doing that for the people that you keep in your circle as well. Yeah, I dunno. Yeah. I learned so much. It's just been, 

Ms. Christine: you 

Jared Easley: go into a lot of details on these specific things in your podcast and you're right.

It is a lot to share. Uh, certainly in one question in a podcast episode, Yeah. I really hope that people will check out the show because they're going to learn, wow. These are really some good perspectives that are applicable and how you pick that up through that scenario is amazing. But yeah, we'll digress.

We'll keep going. 

Lori Tupper: So yeah, I really I'm excellent. I'm actually really excited that I I've done the podcast because it's given me a chance. I didn't [00:11:00] notice those lessons. I didn't notice them when I was. Yeah, it took getting past it and meeting Doug and having kids and traveling and being a military spouse to realize the lessons that I've learned in a strip club, because being a military spouse, it's tough.

Like this is not, it's not an easy thing. And had I not learned some of the lessons. That I did learn in the strip club. I probably wouldn't still be a military spouse. It's hard out here. It's hard, especially for somebody like me, whose facial expressions betray what I'm thinking every single time, 

Jared Easley: especially in Nebraska, 

Lori Tupper: Nebraska at little league games.

Ms. Christine: Oh, now Laurie, tell us who is hypnotic involved and why it is important to make space for yourself in your life? 

Lori Tupper: Well, I mean, [00:12:00] I'm not in the club anymore, so that's a plus, but I believe that she's still there. Like when it comes to business and professional life and taking care of my family, like it's by any means necessary, which is kind of the attitude that I carried in the club.

So she's still there. I think the way that she has evolved is that I'm a kinder and softer. I'm slower to anger. I'm more open to hearing other perspectives and I am doing. It's just different. I don't even know if I can properly convey it. It's just really different. Like she is who I am and who I was, but not who I am right now.

And it's just really different. I hope that makes sense. 

Ms. Christine: It does not. Can you go back and tell us [00:13:00] on why it is important to make space for yourself in life? 

Lori Tupper: Oh, gosh, it's so important to make space for yourself because you can't pour from an empty cup, like as a mom of four as again, a military wife and full time I work full time.

Like I'm constantly doing something I take on things like seventy-five hard challenge and think I'm going to do great things there, but it's important for you to make space for yourself because. When you're everything to everybody, you can kind of drown out yourself. And so it's important to always make space for yourself to make sure that you are on the trajectory that you want to be on.

That you're on your journey is what it is, is what you want it to be and not what people are projecting onto you. So for me, my journey is doing this. [00:14:00] Thankfully, Jared told me to start one once upon a time ago, one of these podcasts, and I'm glad I listened eventually eight years later, but it's making space for the little things that make you happy because life is hard.

And 

Jared Easley: speaking of hard living, uh, you drive a Jaguar, which has gotta be miserable. Um, one of the stories or your podcasts about time, when you, you mentioned already you were homeless, get a little bit about that experience and some things you've learned from being homeless. 

Lori Tupper: Oh gosh, I am learned. Never take anything for granted.

I. I had to sleep on my friend's couches. I had to sleep outside. I had to watch my back from guys and girls and other homeless people. It was just, it was a [00:15:00] time where I didn't know if I was going to make it. I didn't know where my next meal was going to come from. I didn't know anything. But I think when everything is taken away from you and is down to just you, I think that there's, there's a beauty in those ashes that you don't see until later, because my relationship, my faith had never been stronger because I had to trust not only in myself, but I had to trust in something bigger than myself to make it every single day.

But it's, it was, it was hard. I don't ever want to go back there and I try so hard to volunteer and help others not to be in that place because it's not a good, good place to be. 

Jared Easley: How did you end up? 

Lori Tupper: Oh, well, so I was living with my grandmother and my grandmother had [00:16:00] gotten sick and so she had to move in with one of my.

And because my mother is a drug addict. My family unfortunately assumed that I was a lot like her. And instead of, instead of taking care of me, I was a child. I was only 16. Like I have a 16 year old daughter and I sit and I think about the things that I saw and did at 16. And. It astounds me because I would never, ever in my life, let her go through anything that I went through right.

As a 16 year old. And so just not having a support system or. Really even knowing how to apply for a job or how to do any of that kind of stuff. I was just like, I guess I'm going to leave it now. And so that's what I had to do. And I had to learn as I went, which is not a [00:17:00] good way for somebody who's 16 to figure out life.

But I mean, there's kids, there were kids out there younger than. And that's devastating. Like just knowing that it was a process and it, it was, um, so yeah, I got there because my grandmother got sick, long story short, my grandmother got sick and I didn't have anybody to help me. 

Ms. Christine: I can't imagine that. So can you tell us what is it okay to ask for help 

Lori Tupper: any time anytime you need help ask for it.

There's no shame whatsoever at all. In asking for help, actually it's at string. It takes a strong person to know that they cannot do it all on their own, and they're going to need some kind of assistance to reach out because we're humans and we honestly, we all need each other. That's why God put us here.

Like we need each other. And I guess anytime. [00:18:00] Anytime. There's a good time to ask for help.

Jared Easley: And one of your episodes, you talked about how you'd kind of been raised with this mindset of, oh, you don't ask for help because. That's somebody who's going to leverage that against you, or that that's gonna, like you said, show some signs of weakness or whatever. And at some point you realize, okay, all that is just forget all that, you know, it's okay to do that.

And can you just elaborate on that for a moment? 

Lori Tupper: So I learned that in the club and I'm so surprised cause in the club, you know, we're all kind of out just to make our coins and go home or wherever we go at the end of that. But I was fortunate enough to be in a situation where I had these group of girls around me that were just, I mean, just phenomenal.

And there, I know some of them still now, and they just have grown into [00:19:00] some amazing women and I, I feel honored and privileged to know them and even had known them at that point. But it was in that moment when. They taught me a growth mindset. They're like, because I was like that in the club, I was like, oh, I don't need you.

I don't need any help. I got this, you know, whatever, whatever. And then what had happened, something happened where somebody money went missing or something and. We ended up rallying around this girl and she made, not only did she make her money back, but she made more money. And so it was that I think that was a turning point for me, but they had already been in that mindset of we're working together to make sure that we all are going to succeed in this business venture that we're on.

So yeah. It was a learning moment and it was just a really pivotal moment for [00:20:00] me to realize that I don't have to do it all by me. 

Jared Easley: You've tried podcasting in the past. You've had some various levels of success and now you've started lemon drops and lab, and I've been bingeing. Uh, you know, I can fail and, uh, I hope people will check out the show.

Cause I think, uh, this is just a wonderful. Show for many, many, many reasons. I hope that you turn this into a book and maybe even a movie and so many things this could become. But, um, I'm curious, what compelled you, because like I said, you've tried other things you've tried other podcasts. What compelled you to share this?

This is like, you know, Hey, this is a lot of info and I didn't even know these things about you until, until now. I've known you for several years. 

Lori Tupper: I just got tired of carrying it. I was like, you know, What can I do to share something with the world to where [00:21:00] it'll help? And I was like, well, I'll just share my story.

Cause it's kind of interesting, I think. And that's when I started. And then once I started talking about everything that I've gone through is. Whoa. Cause even before I started the podcast, like I remembered some things, but then I started writing out the show and I'm like, oh my God, that happened. I went through that.

And so I think it's important for people to share their stories because. You just never know who's listening or who at a help in that moment. So I think that's really what started me again. And then I met my producer who is phenomenal and does pretty much everything. So all I have to do is show up in podcasts.

So that makes it easy for me. So I'll be able to share my story because I'm not working worried about like the other side of like the technical stuff, because I'm not technical, which is [00:22:00] probably why I love the first podcast didn't pan out because I'm not a technical person at all, but I just think there's something really special about being vulnerable and authentic and sharing your life that resonates with people.

And that's why I did it. And that's why I'm probably going to continue to do it for. 

Jared Easley: So you're saying it's okay to ask for podcast help. Yes. 

Lori Tupper: 100%. Yes. 

Ms. Christine: That, that leads us into the next question. How did you meet your podcast editor? 

Lori Tupper: I met her on Facebook in a group, I think is called she podcast. Somebody had asked about a producer and I was like, well, what's a producer.

And so then I started reading the comments and I'm like, yep, I need that. And she was in there. So I, I messaged her and was like, Hey, how you doing? Can you help me? And she's like, [00:23:00] yeah. And she did. And we talked on the phone, we had a meeting and we did like a, no, we did a video chat and she was the sweetest thing.

And I was like, I just, I'm going to work with you no matter what, like, I just need you your presence. Like, she's amazing. She's just so sweet and calm and professional. And she keeps me in order. Yeah. And I'm like, I just, can I marry you?

I know. It's just, I feel like this is right. So, but yeah, I met her on Facebook, random, totally random meeting, but so blessed by it. Are you allowed to name drop?

Jared Easley: Okay. Well, I can say definitely thanks to Brendale. Yeah. Cause you do have a good show. It is a good show. And I've heard some of your other shows, which also obviously the [00:24:00] production that helps and then your, you know, your ability to really dive into some of this stuff. Very personal and, and really interesting.

So yeah, I, I'm really proud that you, uh, allowed yourself to, to get that help from Greendale and then this out there. 

Ms. Christine: Yeah, me too. Right now, your podcast episodes have several moments throughout the episodes where you break down and cry. What was the process like for you to record such a vulnerable moments in the first, very first season of the park?

Lori Tupper: I just went with it, like as that. So I write the podcast down and I'm fine when I'm writing them, but then I start like talking and reading it and then I'm like, I guess there's a different emotion when you're speaking it. And so I didn't realize how much of a cry baby I am till I started doing this podcast.

I'm like, oh my, I don't cry ever. Now I'm sitting here a [00:25:00] mess crying like a crazy person, but I guess all of the feelings just come back when you're speaking it. And it's some, it got emotional, I got heavy. But I tried to keep it as light as possible because some of the subject matter, I being homeless and losing my son and all that kind of stuff is, is hard to talk about, but I did it and I just recorded it.

I didn't even stop. I just recorded it straight through and just send it to Randell. And she I'm glad she left a lot of that in there because I feel like it, it just hits a little different when you're listening to it. And. You can hear the emotion and the person's voice, but speaking about their journey,

Jared Easley: uh, listening to the story about you losing your son. Listen to you. Talk about your [00:26:00] mother-in-law. I mean, those are moments that, like, I didn't know that about you, but now I know that. Just relating to you on a completely different level than ever before, just because you were so vulnerable and so honest and raw, so to speak in those stories.

And, um, you know, I'm really, again, appreciative of you going there. Cause it just, uh, I know it wasn't easy and probably not always fun, but it really did resonate. I think with myself and. Here's it we've we've mentioned your husband, Doug, and he's a military chaplain. That was curious how the podcast and the details about your past, has that caused any, maybe like some awkwardness with colleagues or others in your circles who probably didn't know some of this info about your past

Lori Tupper: awkward. I do know when I first started the Facebook page, I invited all of my friends. And so I started getting messages from some people in the church. They're like, Hey, I think you got hacked. [00:27:00] And I'm like, no, I didn't that's me. So just listen to it. But yeah. So I think I steer away from talking about.

And that's because I want to be able to share my truth without any detriment to my family or him and his career. So there's a way to do that. And I think that I'm because I'm not talking about him as much, especially not what he does or, or any specifics relating to his. I think that is where it works because he listens to it and he likes it and he's, he's not had a problem yet.

And I I've talked to him about stuff and he's like, are you sure you want to talk about that? And I'm like, well, yeah, I think so. And he's like, okay. [00:28:00] And then he'll listen to the episode and he'll be like, that was really good. I'm glad you did that. And so it's been good. Good. Although I did mention the spouses club and one of the apps

did didn't go over so well, but,

Jared Easley: and I used to be. 

Ms. Christine: Oh, 

Lori Tupper: wow. Gosh.

Ms. Christine: Okay. Now, Lori, what are some real life things that keep you busy outside of the podcast? 

Lori Tupper: My Peloton. Yes, seriously. I think right now I'm just, I'm trying to beat 39 and fine in February. And so my fitness journey is really taking a seat in the forefront of life right now. Like I get up at four in the morning, kind of a four in the [00:29:00] morning this morning because I knew I was going to do this today because right now I would normally be working out.

But I was like, you know what, let me just get it done early so I can focus. And so that's really so podcasting my fitness journey and then just, I really like the holidays. So right now the holidays, which is why I ended my podcast when I did, because the holidays are very, very special to me and I try to make them as special as I can for my kids.

So I really wanted to take that time and hone in on, on the holidays. December is a hard month for us. That's when my mother-in-law passed away. So I just try and try and do that for them. Yeah. 

Jared Easley: We only got a couple more questions. So we'll, we'll try to wrap these up. One of them is, is I think I'm curious about you, you do mention that, you know, you're listening to podcasts, but you also listen to audio books.

And I was wondering if you had an audio book or two that you recommend [00:30:00]

Lori Tupper: right now, I'm listening to bamboozled by Jesus by Yvonne. She plays Ireland. So she plays Molly on insecure, but it's a great book. It's really good. 

Jared Easley: I'm sending this to Christine for

Lori Tupper: that one. 

Jared Easley: Bamboozled by Jesus. What a title. 

Lori Tupper: That's why I picked it up. I'm like,

Ms. Christine: I'll take the wheel. 

Jared Easley: Forgive me. Jesus. 

Ms. Christine: I read that one.

What do you say to someone who is in a very difficult situation and is having some trouble seeing the light at the end of the tunnel? Laurie? 

Lori Tupper: So I [00:31:00] liked the saying this too shall pass is something I've always told myself is something that my grandmother would say to me. It sucks when you're in the thick of something and you're going through it, it sucks.

You're sitting in this up, but I like to say this too shall pass. And I also, I also, well, I actually in a situation like that right now, and what I did was I just encouraged the person to kind of sit with it because there's a lesson. There's a message in the. You have to kind of see what what's going on, even though it's sucky and it's crappy, you have to be able to just take a moment and take a breath and be like, okay, I'm here.

What is this trying to teach me? Where am I going from here? Because, and then once you can figure that out or find that one thing that is positive within that mess, that's, what's going to keep you moving forward and get you out of [00:32:00] it. I think.

Oh, gosh, he's doing something that interests me, um, all the time. I mean, I'm trying to figure out Twitch.

Ms. Christine: You'll have to hit me up. Yeah. 

Lori Tupper: DM. 

Jared Easley: Christine knows 

Lori Tupper: about that. Yeah know, who's doing something that I, I mean, Oprah. Honestly, it's Oprah.

Jared Easley: trying to get some free gifts. 

Lori Tupper: I'm trying to be the one that's given out the free gifts. 

Ms. Christine: Yeah, I know. That's right.

There you go connect with you online and listen to your 

Lori Tupper: podcasts online. [00:33:00] They can listen to my podcast on any major podcast streaming platform, Google, Spotify, apple, a bunch of other ones that I don't know. But if you go to my website, lemon drops and lap dances, it's there too. So all the ways, all the things.

Jared Easley: And we always end with, do you have any final thoughts for the listeners? 

Lori Tupper: Yes. Do the thing that you are so scared of doing that you've always wanted to do that you have been thinking about trying, just do the thing and because you'll never know if. Lori, 

Jared Easley: we appreciate you. We love you. We're glad that we met you all these years ago and now see you continue to do big things and make things happen.

And, uh, I couldn't be more excited for you. So thank you for sharing with us today and look forward to continuing to see how these things evolve. Podcast and these other adventures [00:34:00] that you're going to be stepping into soon. So you got a big move coming up 

Lori Tupper: eventually, hopefully to 

Ms. Christine: Europe,

Lori Tupper: Germany, trying to go leave the air force to, to catch up. 

Ms. Christine: Thanks again. .