The Happy Investor Method with Angela E. Matthews

Angela E. Matthews is an investment strategist and coach. As the founder of The Happy Investor Method™, her goal is to make investing accessible and fun for all. As an experienced investor, investment trainer, and conference speaker, she has conducted workshops, seminars, and one-on-one coaching with thousands of individuals from all walks of life. 

Angela shows people how to grow their personal portfolios to achieve greater affluence and establish generational wealth. As a first-generation investor, she has learned to invest successfully, and her investments have allowed angela to travel all over the world (45 countries and counting), take care of her parents, pay for her wedding, and purchase her first home and plant the seeds for her trust fund babies. 

She is a regular financial contributor to SiriusXM and has been featured in prominent media such as The Huffington Post, Mint.Com, and the new york times. Angela says she was fortunate to begin her career at the financial powerhouse, Goldman Sachs, where she figured out how to combine her love of yoga with carefully honed investment practices to become a happy investor. 

On the personal side, Angela is a native New Yorker and resides in Texas with her husband and two young children. 

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The Happy Investor Method with Angela E. Matthews

Angela E. Matthews: [00:00:00] We have a beautiful human experience. We all get to live our own experience and make it as sweet as possible. And that isn't to say that crappy things don't happen, but in the end of the day, you get to make it worth it.

Jared Easley: welcome back to the podcast. I'm Jared, I'm your host. And of course, I'm always trying to talk to interesting people and I'm here at fin con at the pro network. Opportunity. They have here on day one and I've run into Angela. Angela. We've just met, but that doesn't mean we can't talk on a podcast. How 

Angela E. Matthews: are you?

I'm doing really well. How are you doing? 

Jared Easley: I'm behaving. So for those that don't know you, including myself, let's do the lazy podcast question. Tell us about yourself. 

Angela E. Matthews: Founder and CEO of the happy investor method. I'm an investment coach and strategist. And that's what I do. I teach folks how to make money in the stock market.

Jared Easley: Fantastic. Okay. So congrats on [00:01:00] that. Now, yesterday, you chose to fly to Austin from Dallas and you had quite the experience enlighten us. What was that like? It was 

Angela E. Matthews: horrible. Well, it was supposed to be a 35 minute dry now. Or a three and a half hour drive ended up being a four hour flight just because, you know, travel ends up being travel.

Jared Easley: So you invested in the wrong travel at that time. I did, 

Angela E. Matthews: but I'm banking on my way back home. It'll be easier. And I will get my 35 minute flight. 

Jared Easley: I hope you do that said so at some point in your life, you realized, Hey, I want to go down this path. So tell us what was that aha moment where you were just like, okay, I need to be serious.

I need to be focused. I need to go in this direction, like in life, 

Angela E. Matthews: in general, in terms of what you're doing now, right now. I mean, G cause I think we always have those paths present itself throughout our entire life. Okay. Let's start at your childhood. I was [00:02:00] born and raised in Queens, New York, you know, to immigrants now, but beyond that, where you're really born and raised in Queens, 

Jared Easley: Queens to Dallas, that's a little bit of a difference.

Angela E. Matthews: It is. It's a huge difference. Yes, five years still here, culture shock up the wazoo. But what I love about it is that people are really nice wherever you go. If, if you don't talk about politics and all that, it gets you going just nice, like, and there are things that divide us and you can focus on the things that divide us or the things that unite us.

And I like to focus on the things that unite us. I agree. 

Jared Easley: Okay. So was it when you got to Dallas that you realized you wanted to kind of get into what you're doing now? Or was that 

Angela E. Matthews: before? No, actually, so I've been an investor for 10 years. And so I'm a self-taught investor. My background's at Goldman Sachs.

I went there to learn how to make money. And all I got taught was how to manage money and prove that there was a heck of a lot out of it. But it wasn't in the hands of regular people. It was just in the hands of the ultra rich and we kept it there. [00:03:00] And so I left Goldman Sachs and then just invest it on my own.

Had a social media agency, taught tech, did all these things. And then naturally I eventually just started getting bored of tech. And at that point I would go, I was a regular contributor, you know, a tech influencer. And I'm so transparent that at some point folks asked me and I was just like, I don't want to talk about this anymore.

And then they'll go, what do you want to talk about? I said, well, let's talk about owning tech. Can we start talking about owning things? People consume so many things. Why can't we have ownership and that's how it started. And then before, you know, it, folks would email me. You said, I heard you talk about this ownership thing.

How do I own this? How do I own Instagram? And I said, well, technically you own Facebook because Facebook owns Instagram and that's how we do it. Well, how do I own that? No one ever told me how to do that. My parents didn't invest. No one taught me this in school. And so it's been about five to six years now.

And I've just been doing that teaching everyday. How to build reliable, sustainable wealth in the stock market. I 

Jared Easley: love this. [00:04:00] Okay. Because you're right. A lot of people don't know this and I'm sure they'd be interested, but Hey, where do you begin? So, so that's my question is for someone who is saying. I need to check this out.

I need to get into this, but I don't know where to start. I don't know who to trust. What do you say to that person? 

Angela E. Matthews: I say, give yourself grace, because you're getting into a party that's been going on for like decades. And so give yourself some grace, give yourself grace in a sense that I find that a lot of people come to the table with a lot of, I have to catch up on lost time because they've known about investing for years, but they've just never had the.

And so once you do that, start dabbling start going onto Google, but don't go crazy with Google, check out Investopedia, right? Check out sites that are like really focused on investing. And as you start understanding the landscape, understand your goals and compare it to your personality. Are you someone that likes to get money quickly?

So then maybe you're going to be in for day trading. Are you someone that doesn't enjoy a lot of stress, but you're more so someone that likes to stay in relationships like. And you're a saver then [00:05:00] maybe you're the buy and holds kind of person. And so what you want to do is really quickly distinguish which kind of investor you want to be.

And then from there you can start seeking out advice and education, and then once you get educated, you can start actually investing. The biggest mistake is people just take, you know, a thousand dollars, throw it in the stock market, stock plummets, and are like investing sucks. It doesn't. 

Jared Easley: Yeah. So I'm sure you never made that mistake, right?

Are you, are you the, uh, invest in hold tight person or so you're the 

Angela E. Matthews: long game I'm in the long game. And I think, you know, there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy and being rich. There's nothing. I mean, Hey, either way money is money, if you have it, that's great. But when you're. It's fleeting, right?

It's tied to your actual physical body. If you're not working, you're not making money. It doesn't matter if you're a doctor, a lawyer, doesn't matter if you are like an influencer, if you're not on, money's not coming to you. Right. And so that's a rich conversation. I love the idea of. Whether I am [00:06:00] with my kids, whether I am writing a book, whether I am just doing nothing, my money's growing in the background.

And so initially it might not be a lot, but over time, the way money works, the beautiful compounding effect, which I know that word is scary for some folks. It's like your money's on steroids. It just grows. So that only happens with longterm investing, 

Jared Easley: but if you're willing to share, what are some investments that you think are worthy of that long-term committed?

The 

Angela E. Matthews: things that'll outlive us all. Give me an example. So an example you're like Disney Disney was here before us. Probably not going anywhere. It's going to be fast. Yeah. I'm like a Marvel, like, you know, I'm like very much in some Marvel universe. And so, I mean, yeah, Marvel is definitely not going to need.

Like we're at the tip of the iceberg and they just started from now. 

Jared Easley: I have more stuff come 

Angela E. Matthews: out, more stuff, more shows, more movies. The park isn't even open yet for like, it's open, but it's still not at its glory days capacity because of the pandemic. [00:07:00] And so there's still opportunity. That's an example of something that's going to be here.

We'll after I am. And it's something that I believe in. 

Jared Easley: Okay, so that's a good example. You mentioned books. So you've written some books. 

Angela E. Matthews: I am currently writing a book, so I have it. It's not published yet currently writing it. So stay tuned. 

Jared Easley: So as a self published traditionally right 

Angela E. Matthews: now, we're shopping around for publishers.

So I would love to get it actually published and not self published. It's possible. Uh, so is 

Jared Easley: this a book proposal or you've actually started working on the actual. So 

Angela E. Matthews: I'm working on the book, we're working on the book proposal. We've started shopping it out, but I've actually started writing it because I'm the person where if you tell me to do something and I have like a really strict deadline, my alter ego is going to come out and say like, you're not the boss of me.

We do whatever we want. Versus if I just do it when the mood strikes. How much rather that way

Jared Easley: okay. So I have written the [00:08:00] book I've written actually more than one. Well, I'm not necessarily trying that. I'm just curious about your process. So, because this is new for you, what process are you finding that is helpful up to this point? 

Angela E. Matthews: So I enjoy every time I meet someone, I get a bit of a download.

I'm one of those folks where I'm an oratory. I processed audibly and through oration, like through my speech. And so when I meet people, I get a question and think, well, that was an amazing question. And so I go and write the answers to that question in the book. And so I've divided it up into chapters and I almost filed the questions into these chapters.

And so far that's worked for me. And so the book, it's not, you know, a nice little neat bow, but when I'm ready to really step down and go to the process, I pretty much have a lot of it there. 

Jared Easley: You're going to have your framework. That's nice. Okay. 

Angela E. Matthews: Maybe announcer docs. I'm not a writer. You're the professional 

Jared Easley: here.

I know I don't claim that, but the aha moment for me was someone said, if you went into a coffee shop with a friend for 30 minutes and they said, Hey, tell me about your book. What are the three things you would tell them in that 30 minutes? And that's [00:09:00] simply your outline. And I thought, oh, that kind of makes sense.

So that's, that's kind of the path I followed. Certainly not perfect, but I thought, okay, what are the three things? And then I kind of broke it down from that. 

Angela E. Matthews: What's your most recent book about? Well, 

Jared Easley: I haven't written one in a couple of years, but it's only because my, my business partner has asked me not to, because we're focused on our current business, but I, I have the itch to write again and I will, I've got several book ideas.

Um, I think it will be about a one is about helping people who want to get into events, create their own events, whether small or large or something like a fan con, which is what we're at. How do you, how do you even go about starting something like that? And we've been down that path and yeah, the, or somebody who's just wanting to create, whether it's meetups or just create.

One day events or something like that. There's, there's lots of, uh, small businesses or, or even a influencer type of folks like yourself that maybe say, Hey, I want to have my own thing. I want to have my own event. I could go hire this company and [00:10:00] pay a lot of money, but it is there other ways to do it. So I'm.

Probably have a book called throw the party in the title of that comes from a party that through in high school, which was a terrible thing to do. My mom was out of town and I told the wrong people that I was having a party. And they told the whole school 

Angela E. Matthews: told the wrong people. I 

Jared Easley: told this guy named Wayne, this is a long story.

So I'm not going to get into it. But I told a guy named Wayne who had a big mouth and he told everybody, and then I was pressured. I thought, if I don't have this party, I'm going to be a social pariah. So it was like, I threw the party. And we had over 200 people come to my house and wreck my neighbor's yards and people got arrested.

I won't get a bit about what happened, but what happened was the next Monday I went to school and I was the most popular person in that school. Everybody was talking about that party. I went from nobody hardly knowing me to all of a sudden I was a sophomore. And then everybody's like, you know, Jared easleys party.

And so, and like that, that story reminded me. Okay, I'm going to call it, throw the party, start out with that [00:11:00] story and then say, Yeah, obviously, you don't want to do it the wrong way, but, but throwing a party is a good way to get people together. It's a good way to grow your brand, grow your visibility, create community, those types of things.

So I, I, that was very long-winded. Let's not talk about

that's one example of a book that I want to write. There's several, but that's one.

Angela E. Matthews: I'm glad to do well. I'm not going to let you off the hook yet. I think your book idea is awesome. I had through a conference back in Dallas a few years ago, and it was called total wealth live where I got all these leaders within the financial, personal finance space to talk about different parts of finance, right?

Like how do you do real estate? How do you do stock market investing day trading options, angel investing. And I had all of these people in one room. And usually when you're thinking about investing, it's like a light bulb goes off and it's like, I'm ready to be an investor. And then you're like, holy crap, there's a lot of stuff to invest in.

How do you know what to do? And so my vision was to have almost like a, like a market where people could go down aisles and say like, [00:12:00] yeah, I think I'll do this. I want to do this and then make an educated decision. But boy, that event was, I loved it, but it was a sincere labor of love. I mean, and I didn't hire a company to just do it because I wanted to do it.

I wanted to be involved in all the little. But it's a really big process. I 

Jared Easley: think that's where a lot of people don't fully appreciate if you're going to do it right. And you're going to make it sustainable. Long-term, there's a lot of things to consider and not everyone realizes that right out of the bat.

So a lot of new events, I don't know about yours, but a lot of new events and we'll be very lucky to break even much less, be profitable or they'll lose money. Those are pitfalls. And hopefully, maybe this book can help people navigate that better, but it's not written yet. It's just in my head, 

Angela E. Matthews: but it'll be good.

And people need to learn how to make money from events cause you're right. Folks do this and there is mine was profitable and it was actually really profitable. I don't understand how it was, but 

Jared Easley: just get it what you do. And you're humble [00:13:00] and you're from Queens, but it's 

Angela E. Matthews: not your first rodeo, but I will say one thing if anyone's thinking about an event and.

You know, right. This too, there was the founder of fin con. I remember, I mean, everyone goes through this when they're thrown events. There's a moment of like, why the heck did I think this was a good idea, like moment where things are going crazy as they naturally do when you're doing something. And I went to him, I was PT and I went to him and I said, Like, how do you do this?

Like year after year? Like, this is crazy. Could you not tell me that this would be like the most stressful part of my year right now planning this event? And I said, why do you do this? Why do we do this? And he said, very simply and eloquently, we do this because events changes lives. I agree, 

Jared Easley: changed my life 

Angela E. Matthews: and they've changed mine too.

Just that one sentence has, I mean, carried me on. And even when I do live events and I'm looking forward to doing more live events and I'm sure as your book comes out, you're going to have a live event like kick. I mean, come on, it's a book about 11 event. You got to have a live event. 

Jared Easley: I would imagine it'd be more of a potentially consulting or something like [00:14:00] that.

And maybe not because we already have our live event. We have podcast movement, which is a podcast. So people that are interested podcasting or. We'll come to this. And we were actually able to have it this past August safely. And it went really well. And so we hope the pandemic will continue to subside and we'll be able to safely do events, but there's events for everything.

Like you said, financial investing. There's a big fan of events for, you know, I love the TV show survivor, so, you know, could there be a fan of it and just get a bunch of old school survivor, you know, I don't know, wrestling is a good example. I grew up watching wrestling. So, you know, a wrestling fan event when interests me.

I'd love to go meet Rick flair, but anyway, let's get away from that. So thank you for, thank you for indulging me. 

Angela E. Matthews: Oh, this is all an indulgence. He literally stopped me mid walking through an aisle. Like you come over here, you're going to be on a podcast. 

Jared Easley: Well, in fairness, you were kind of [00:15:00] looking around the room.

You were like, you were harshly judging people. I think. And then I said, just come on over and then you lowered your standards and did that. And I don't know why, but now we're on a podcast, so thank you by the way. So back to, okay, so you've done events. So maybe when the pandemic gets over, you'll do some more and try them again and 

Angela E. Matthews: do retreats.

I think folks are really starved for that physical connection, especially after the pandemic, but even more so before it just because we're so tech heavy and I feel as if we're all in these silos, Doing amazing things, running our own races, listening to the same podcast, doing all this stuff, but we never actually get to meet each other and have that connection.

And this is proof because when you meet a internet friend in person, like you. You're best friends since high school, and you never actually met them in person, but you've known them for years online. And so I want to create more of these spaces where we can have intimate, genuine connections with people that we have a lot in common with just in real life.[00:16:00]

Jared Easley: A personal question, if that's okay. Um, so I, I, uh, my wife and I, we bought our house in 2009. We paid X fast forward this summer, the markets blown up, and then we found out our neighbors sold their house, a couple of houses down sold, and we found out how much they sold it for. We were like, whoa, we should probably put our house on the market.

So we did. And then very quickly got an offer that we would not have thought would have been. We didn't think somebody would pay that for, we just didn't. So, uh, a family from Philadelphia was moving down to Florida and they really liked the house and they made an offer that we couldn't say no to. So we put our stuff in storage and we sold the house.

We are now living with my wife's parents 

Angela E. Matthews: temporarily moved to that, having a place to live well, 

Jared Easley: we considered that. Okay, you can go out and rent something, but you know, rent in south Florida is pretty high for. Did we really want to squander [00:17:00] all that money and rent or if we could just, uh, my, my in-laws have two bedrooms that were open and it's like, okay, my father-in-law's in his eighties, we'll get my wife and my daughter a chance to be around him and spend time with them.

So I didn't think of it as a bad thing. And I still don't, it's obviously helping us. Uh, but, but now there's this, this money from the sale. That's just sitting there. And a part of me is like, I don't know what to do with this problem. So yes, the market could self-correct or cool or whatever word you want to use.

The real estate market in the next six months could be a year. It could be longer. I don't know, hopefully not longer. Cause I don't want to necessarily stay where

I kinda like to walk around my house and whatever I want to wear, but anyway, we won't go there. Um, that said if you're in a situation like that, how potentially. Yeah, this resources. The money that you now have and put it to good use and not just have it sitting somewhere. So maybe you can give that. I know [00:18:00] that's kind of, you know, not much info, but maybe enough though.

Angela E. Matthews: It's actually common and it's a good problem. So I, you know, there are bad problems and good problems, and this is a good problem because you have money, but it's kind of just sitting there. I'm not making money. It's very idle. And for me, I don't like that. Usually money needs some make money and it needs to be working if you're working.

Well, I know I'm 

Jared Easley: not likely to buy a house at least for several months. 

Angela E. Matthews: And so there are a couple of things you could do. Um, and it's really interesting because my mother-in-law just recently sold her house. And so I just had this conversation with her too, because now it's like, okay, end of the year, she has all this money in the account.

What do we do with that? And so on one hand you can invest it and just take a very conservative approach. Right? Put it in like a very low risk. Okay, it'll give you a very low, and this is, of course not to say, I'm giving you advice, like of course consultant advisor, but this is just like my opinions or experience.

You can put it in a low. Right. And a low interest fund. It's not going to be, you know, crazy money, [00:19:00] but you don't need crazy money. You just need some money. So happened because, and so you could do that. And then, you know, for my husband and I were thinking of getting a real estate property as well, but of course it's not the time right now because the market is just too hot, as you said.

And so what I've done is I took a certain percentage of that money and I'm playing with it and playing for me. Right. It's high-risk I did not take all of it, but I said, you know, let me just take this little piece right here. And I'm going to, I did my research, you know, we're in a course, a crypto course, and we're actually in a little bit of crypto and what's really beautiful about it is that the money's already grown exponentially more than my other investor.

But that's a short-term investment. I know I'm going to pull the investment out short term. And so that's why I said 

Jared Easley: your tendency is to be the whole, but now, but now you're kind of, Hey, let's 

Angela E. Matthews: because the money's just sitting there and I needed to do something. And so the [00:20:00] way I thought about it was how do I come bat these rising housing prices, these rising property prices?

Well, if I can make the money grow faster than the market has grown. Well, then technically we're still saving and that's kind of how I thought about it. 

Jared Easley: Okay. But obviously that you're not doing this blindly, like you said, you're taking course. You're obviously getting some, some good advice 

Angela E. Matthews: and get advice.

I mean, I've been investing in crypto. The first time I invested in crypto was two years ago and I bought $5 worth of Bitcoin. 

Jared Easley: Yeah. I'm sure that tripled 

Angela E. Matthews: like $175 now. 

Jared Easley: Oh, that's a good, that's a good use of 

Angela E. Matthews: $5. That was an amazing piece of $5. And of course I'm like, man, I should've put 500 or 5,000. Um, 

Jared Easley: but you're yeah, you're prudent not to do that.

I 

Angela E. Matthews: didn't know. I said, you know what? This is like the cost of Starbucks latte. 

Jared Easley: Every cryptocurrency is going to necessarily do what Bitcoin does. 

Angela E. Matthews: No, absolutely not. It is a highly volatile. 

Jared Easley: So that would be another question is how do you determine which currencies are [00:21:00] probably better to have that short-term investment versus.

Uh, if I put something in this, I'm likely just to 

Angela E. Matthews: lose it. I don't mess with that new currencies. So Bitcoin and Ethereum, those are pretty out of this game. Those are 

Jared Easley: likely 

Angela E. Matthews: going to be around. So exactly, I mean, you can purchase. Bitcoin. There is a Bitcoin ATM machine. When I travel, I see Bitcoin ETM as GS.

And so they're here. There are other committed players. I don't want to 

Jared Easley: spend my Bitcoin I'll hold onto it. 

Angela E. Matthews: Don't spend the Bitcoin. So that's the thing. It's an asset. You don't spend the Bitcoin. So some folks do that. They buy and sell their Bitcoin. Yeah. I just keep buying more honestly. And anytime there's a deputy.

Jared Easley: Absolutely. I think you're right, because I think Bitcoin, we're just scratching the surface and I think down the road, that's going to be a number of people didn't ever conceive. I say the average person. Yeah, 

Angela E. Matthews: absolutely. And I still feel late to the party, you know, I feel so late to the Bitcoin 

Jared Easley: hard. Well, if [00:22:00] you can buy Bitcoin at 40 grand and ends up being 120 or whatever it ends 

Angela E. Matthews: up being, I definitely see it.

A hundred easily within like the next two, three years, it's going to hit 500,000 and then a million. And it will always be the same conversation. It's too expensive for me to get into it. Should I do it? Should I not? But it's never a bad time to have your money make. 

Jared Easley: I'm with you on that. This is a good conversation.

You've got my wheels turning. 

Angela E. Matthews: I mean, we spoke about a lot of random things, but 

Jared Easley: Angela, you're a diverse person. So I appreciate that. Okay. Well, I won't keep you, cause I know there's many things you want to do in Austin, Texas, besides just sit and talking to podcasts forever. So let's just start with. A couple of basic things.

One is for someone that's really just starting out in the investing game and they want to get in touch with you and maybe read some of your resources, or maybe they're lucky enough to work with you, whatever that is. How can they 

Angela E. Matthews: do that? Well, definitely go to happy investor method.com that is going to give you all the [00:23:00] resources we've got on demand trainings.

Uh, there we teach classes and I do hold private masterminds because like I said, Getting groups of people together from different walks of life, putting them in a room, conducting my own social experiment and say to them how to make money. And so it's real fun.

Jared Easley: okay. Who's doing something that interests you, 

Angela E. Matthews: who is doing something that interests me right now.

Jared Easley: I mean beside yourself, 

Angela E. Matthews: I'm like, can I be, how cheesy can this get? 

Jared Easley: And it'll have to be money related. 

Angela E. Matthews: It can be, it's not, I was actually gonna say my 10 month old does interesting things, 

Jared Easley: you know, I've asked this question. A lot of people, no one's ever said their child first. So that, that's a good answer though.

Angela E. Matthews: Yeah. My child interests me. Yeah. That's fun. Interest me. Like he's real, can't [00:24:00] walk, but he climbs into everything and I caught him the other day climbing into the dish. And so, yeah, that was definitely like my parents. I was like, uh, yes, I was, it was, oh, I was unloading the dishes and tries to climb the stairs and we have a gate, but there's some stairs.

You can't put a gate cause it's just open. And so I said, okay, you're going to come in the kitchen with me while I work. I'm going to just do my thing. And so I said doing my thing, taken out, the dishes, turned my back, put some plates in a cupboard, turned around. This kid was climbing into the dishwasher.

I was like, oh, well I can't, 

Jared Easley: I applaud his, uh, enthusiasm and his desire to check things out and most little ones. But good on you for Cassie. That could have been man. Okay. A closing thoughts are always ask final thoughts. Do you have a final 

Angela E. Matthews: thought? I think this is awesome. I think you're really fun and spontaneous and amazing.

And I'm sure your listeners love that about [00:25:00] you. 

Jared Easley: Well, I'll take it one final thought. That's not related to me. 

Angela E. Matthews: I mean, that's my final thought. Okay. My final final thought. We have a beautiful human experience and we all get to live our own experience and make it as sweet as possible. And that isn't to say that crappy things don't happen, but

are crappy place, but in the end of the day, you get to make it worth it. And so even if I had to go through a four hour crappy Flay to sit here with you right now,

So, yeah, I mean, and just make sure that, you know, I know that finances are a really big hiccup in folks' mind, but really when you do understand how to get it on how to automate your wealth, which is what I do, you really get to live life boldly and the things that you worry about, don't worry you anymore.

And that's kinda my desire for you just live life [00:26:00] boldly and unapologetically. 

Jared Easley: I hope people will really consider everything you've had to say, because there are so many people who are stuck or frustrated who are feeling overwhelmed, and there are ways out of that. There are ways to live to be gratuitous.

Would you please tell us your website one more time, just to make sure that 

Angela E. Matthews: people know sure. A happy investor method.com do not forget the method.com yet. I make happy investors and I teach them a method. 

Jared Easley: Get plugged into a mastermind. You might go on a retreat who knows 

Angela E. Matthews: he might do a meditation. 

Jared Easley: Thank you so much.

Angela is a pleasure meeting you. I'm absolutely sure that we'll be friends and maybe even a chat again. I hope so. 

Angela E. Matthews: Thank you for having me. Good luck 

Jared Easley: and enjoy the conference.[00:27:00] .