If it Ain't Going to Kill You, Do it with Ashley Long and Dez Jordan

To achieve financial success, you need to start with the right mindset. In this episode, you will learn: 1. What advice does Des Jordan have for Ashley Long, who is working towards launching her own podcast production company?
2. How did Ashley and Des Jordan meet, and what was their first impression of each other?
3. What are some of Ashley Long's goals for her career in podcast production?


Here's a breakdown of what is covered:
[00:00:00] - Don't let fear stop you.

[00:00:21] - Introducing Ashley and Dez.

[00:01:59] - Welcome to fincon.

[00:03:09] - Where's home?

[00:04:35] - First year fincon.

[00:07:09] - What popped into Ashley's mind?

[00:08:16] - What session has stood out to Dez?

[00:09:05] - What are some of your goals?

[00:09:41] - Dez' coaching advice.

[00:14:01] - Hang out with rich people.

[00:16:25] - Someone that excites you.

[00:18:31] - If a friend is stuck.

[00:20:26] - Having aha moments.

[00:24:42] - How to connect with them online.

[00:26:01] - Your final thoughts.

Connect with Ashley Long on LinkedIn and Instagram.

Connect with Dez Jordan on LinkedIn & Instagram. 

Transcript

[Dez Jordan]

If it ain't going to kill you, do it. You only live once. Life is not promised tomorrow. Don't let your fear stop you. And I say this for me as well. This is for me to look back on and tell myself this. So I'm speaking to future days, and I'm speaking to everybody out there that's afraid of something.

[Jared Easley]

Welcome back to the show. This is Jared. I'm missing my co host, Ms. Christine. She's not here with me because I'm at a conference in Orlando, and at this conference, I've bumped into two lovely ladies. I'm not even going to begin to introduce them because we just met. So we're going to start out, we have Ashley and Des. So we'll start with Ashley. Ashley, for those who don't know you and they can't know you because I have only said your first name. So actually tell us about you, and then we're going to swap over to Des. Same question.

[Ashley Long]

Okay, well, thank you, first of all for having us, Jared. My name is Ashley. First time as a Fincon attendee. I work now full time in podcast production. I work for a company called Turncast.

[Jared Easley]

There you go.

[Ashley Long]

And we definitely are in the financial space because we produce podcasts essentially for finance and fin tech companies. So we're full service production company can meet all your needs.

[Jared Easley]

Do you get your hands dirty? Do you edit? Do you do that kind of stuff?

[Ashley Long]

I don't edit this, but I added personally because I also have a personal podcast.

[Jared Easley]

Hold on now.

[Ashley Long]

Recapping podcast.

[Jared Easley]

Recapping podcast.

[Ashley Long]

IG Twitter, Facebook, all the things about pop culture, TV, and film because I came from the TV world, so it's.

[Dez Jordan]

Still my biggest passion.

[Jared Easley]

Outstanding. Wow. Okay. Top that is I don't know if.

[Dez Jordan]

I can top that. You sound, like, professional, like I'm a goner at this point. I just got ate up.

[Jared Easley]

You brought in a plate of food, you're looking all happy and smiling, and then you're like, oh, we're going to podcast.

[Dez Jordan]

But as soon as somebody put a mic in front of me or a camera, I am shy.

[Jared Easley]

Oh, please.

[Dez Jordan]

But I overcome it, as we all should.

[Jared Easley]

Yes.

[Dez Jordan]

So to follow that up, I don't know how, but I'm dead. This is my first time at Fincon as well. I'm excited to be here. I'm pretty much here to represent myself as a coach as well as the company I work for. But for the most part, destination coaching is my brand. I just work alongside a financial advisor, a privilege planning, and we work together to kind of get the whole family involved with finance, whether that's making you financially healthy and then getting you to be financially wealthy, that's kind of what our goal is. My goal as a coach is to reach out to the Gen Z and the millennials, make money more fun, as well as teaching people about the foundation of money. The things that we didn't learn in school, making things more accessible for people to come get some advice. I'm just a guide, pretty much a guide. So that's what I do is fine. I'm hoping to add some travel hacking in there, being that a little bit of a passion of mine, and I just discovered that I should put that in there today. So I'll be revamping a lot of stuff coming up for destination coaching.

[Jared Easley]

All right. So we'll stick with Des just for the moment. Des, where's home?

[Dez Jordan]

Where's home? Multiple places, if I'm honest, because she's a travel accident. I do live in Jacksonville, Florida.

[Jared Easley]

Okay. So you're floridian. All right.

[Ashley Long]

Yeah.

[Dez Jordan]

I don't know if I want to claim Florida.

[Jared Easley]

You don't claim Florida. Okay, fair enough. She doesn't claim Florida, but she said Jacksonville, right?

[Dez Jordan]

I live in Jacksonville. My coaching also reaches out to Virginia as well, because I did spend half of my life there, went to college there, and I always wanted to give back in some type of way. I'm involved with the demographics, went to college out there. But I was born and originally raised, and my family is in Brooklyn, New York.

[Jared Easley]

Fair enough.

[Dez Jordan]

Yeah.

[Jared Easley]

Okay. So same question to you, Ashley. Where's home?

[Ashley Long]

First of all, Des is about to be going to Italy, and I'm very happy to steal the money from and say, when we're talking about traveling, I want to go to Italy. Some pasta too. So I am originally from Ohio. Dayton, Ohio. What's up? And have been living now in Orlando for a good five years. So I don't know if that makes me a floridian at this point. I don't know how long it takes.

[Jared Easley]

After four years, it makes okay.

[Ashley Long]

Four is the benchmark. Got it. So. Yeah, I guess I'm a floridian now. I'll claim it.

[Jared Easley]

Okay.

[Ashley Long]

But I'm a local.

[Jared Easley]

Where? In Orlando.

[Ashley Long]

Sanford, Lake, Mary area. So for those who are not familiar, it's a little north of, like, downtown.

[Jared Easley]

Yes, I am familiar, so that's cool. Okay, so we're all here at this conference that you mentioned was Fincon. I want to know, is your first year Fincon?

[Ashley Long]

Yes, both of our first year.

[Jared Easley]

What drew you to this conference? Why?

[Ashley Long]

So, again, for me, it was work. One of our co founders, Judd, was like, hey, Fincon is coming up. This is a great conference. It will be local. Do you want to go? I was like, sure. I love festivals. I love conferences. I love the networking connection that you can have. And since I'm still fairly new to the finance space in general, to me, it was a great opportunity to learn so many things.

[Jared Easley]

Excellent. So you're here. So far, so good.

[Ashley Long]

Oh, yeah, it's been great. We were just talking about it. The best part has been the one on one conversations with people such as.

[Jared Easley]

Yourself, Jared, even if that's not true thank you.

[Ashley Long]

On the pod and live or whatever.

[Jared Easley]

We'Re looking at apparently a live stream going on Des'phone or something. And I always get nervous when I'm.

[Ashley Long]

On live streams because then you got to be careful.

[Jared Easley]

But I don't have an Italy trip to look forward to, so what am I going to do?

[Ashley Long]

I'm used to being edited. That's why everybody's like, I want to interview. I'm like, So is it live or.

[Dez Jordan]

Is it pre recorded?

[Jared Easley]

Well, this is pre recorded, but I don't think there will need to be much editing because you're so polished, Ashley. It's maybe it's your background from entertainment.

[Ashley Long]

Well, probably also podcasts and your ability to stay humble. Yeah, I try my best.

[Jared Easley]

That's cool. Okay, so I'll flip it back over Des. So far, so good, conference wise.

[Dez Jordan]

Yes, it's been an amazing experience, especially for my first one. I live in Florida, so I didn't really have an excuse but to not.

[Jared Easley]

She claims Virginia right now. Okay, Brooke. She don't really claim Brooklyn.

[Dez Jordan]

I'm just here. Okay. I'm just here.

[Jared Easley]

She's just hanging. Okay. But so far so good. It seems you've made some friends. Did you know Ashley prior to the event?

[Dez Jordan]

No.

[Jared Easley]

Two of you meet?

[Dez Jordan]

We met because she walked up to.

[Ashley Long]

Me and was like, I really like your hair color. And I was like, I like your hair too.

[Dez Jordan]

And there we go. We decided to stick together from that point.

[Jared Easley]

I needed to start making friends just based on hair.

[Ashley Long]

It means so much in the black woman community when you can bond over here.

[Jared Easley]

You both have excellent hair, and I'm proud of both of you. Okay. That's pretty fun. Okay, so, Ashley, I want to hear when you first saw this, what popped in your mind other than the hair? We know the hair is amazing. It's on fleek, whatever. I don't even know if that's the right thing.

[Ashley Long]

Anyway, a couple of years past.

[Jared Easley]

Couple of years past. Okay, that's me. That's definitely me. All right.

[Ashley Long]

The first thing I thought, well, she was also with another young lady, Keanu, who we've met here. So my thought was just I literally was just coming in from the Escalators people. Yay. I'm new, never been here before. I didn't come with anybody, so I need to start connecting. And the earlier I feel like you start connecting, the more comfortable you get quicker.

[Jared Easley]

I agree.

[Ashley Long]

So my first thought was, yay, some people I can talk to immediately, and hopefully we can bond.

[Dez Jordan]

That was my thoughts.

[Jared Easley]

So that has been the case, clearly.

[Ashley Long]

Yes.

[Jared Easley]

Have you attended any sessions?

[Ashley Long]

Yes. So I just did the main speaker session, which was awesome. It was Clark coward. It was Patrice Washington. It was a panel of three folks who also spoke like it was multiple. Really good insights. Clark Howard spoke about maintaining integrity. Patrice kind of plugged her new show. I mean, it was a lot of good information.

[Jared Easley]

Yeah, that is good. Okay, so back over to Des. What session has stood out to you aside from the keynote.

[Dez Jordan]

Was that where we just came from?

[Jared Easley]

Yeah, that was the main stage.

[Dez Jordan]

That was a good one.

[Jared Easley]

That was my answer.

[Dez Jordan]

That was my answer. But I think the other one I came from this morning, that one was how to what was it? Price yourself based on value. Yeah. Tackling some of those self doubts that we go through, I think that's like a common theme that a lot of people go through, and it's nice and it feels humbling to see people who have successful businesses are business owners, and they even go through some of those doubts as well. And they want you to that is okay. To price yourself as such value and just the process you have to go through emotionally and within yourself in order to be a successful entrepreneur.

[Jared Easley]

Well said. Ashley, I got a question for you. What are some of your goals? Is it business, money? What are some of the things you want to accomplish? Don't have to be right away, but what are some things you're shooting for?

[Ashley Long]

I feel like what I'm working towards because again, I pivoted from TV just into podcast production full time, literally at the end of May, is I would like to continue to develop skills in that area, to go out on my own, to hopefully launch my own company, my own podcast production company, that sort of thing. So big term goals. That would be it. But I feel like I just need to make sure I know all of the pieces before I do.

[Jared Easley]

Okay, fair enough. I think that's good. All right, so let's flip it back to Des. You're a coach.

[Ashley Long]

Yes.

[Jared Easley]

We'd like to have a sample of your coaching now, based on what Ashley just told you, based on what Ashley just told you, could you give just a very discount version of the coaching? What advice do you have for Ashley? She's got some aspirations, your coach.

[Dez Jordan]

Okay. So being that we're on the spot right now, give me a little tidbit of the overview of what you said, because that's where I heard from a bit.

[Ashley Long]

Yeah. So basically, I would like to at some point on my own production company. Right. So what essentially would go into that, especially from a monetary perspective, in terms of how much I may need to have as a nested to be able to launch all that sort of thing.

[Dez Jordan]

Okay. I feel like the first step starts within yourself. I think the biggest thing from a coaches perspective and as a guide, it definitely starts within you. First of all, you can't do anything unless you first have that mindset. Like, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to do that ish okay. Okay. That's the first thing you have to come outside yourself and be like, I can do it. You start saying positive affirmations like, this is going to happen for my life, I always tell my clients to get like a vision board, put it up on the wall if that's what you really want to do. You're going to have to see it for yourself before you're in that position. So that's the first thing. That's the biggest thing, believe it or not. The second thing I would say as far as the money goes, once you become intentional within your mind, that is when you go ahead and put the money aside because you have to be serious with it first in order to monetize it. So, okay, first it's in my mind. Now I have to actually make it visual, make a vision board. Then I'm going to go ahead and open up a sinking fund for said business, looking out for resources. First of all, talk to people that are in the position that you want to be in because that helps out so much reason. Hence we're here. Talk to people, advertise yourself, talk to people that are in that position and then start to move accordingly to what those people are doing. And then like I said, if you want to be rich, hang around rich people. Okay? So I would say those are the biggest things to get you started. And then that's when you can actually okay, this is the first step, second step, third step, because then you'll start moving. You just have to believe first.

[Ashley Long]

We also we met a really great vendor yesterday who has a company or software called Projection Genie where you can actually use it to basically project out, hey, if I get started with the business, I would be able to know, hey, here's what I'm looking at in terms of finances and this and that. So I know there are those resources out there that we kind of found that to me would be helpful, but definitely on the piece of confidence and believing in myself.

[Dez Jordan]

Easier said than done.

[Ashley Long]

Yeah, especially when you're going out on your own. Because even for me, I worked for a company for so long, they kind of had everything covered that the idea of leaving that comfort and going into more of an entrepreneurial space is scary because there's so many things, especially on the finance side, I didn't know. I'm used to having a W two, not a 1099. And how do I set up if I have employees? Like, there will be a lot on the back end of finance that I feel like I would have questions about.

[Dez Jordan]

I would say, you know how they say, well, I learned this what, today? Yesterday some lady told it to me. She was like, I'm not going to expose her name, but she's like a transformational mindset coach, I believe.

[Ashley Long]

Transformational mindset.

[Dez Jordan]

Yeah, it was great talking. That's what gave me the light moment earlier. But she said, if it ain't going to kill you, do it. If it ain't going to be there's.

[Jared Easley]

A lot of stuff now that I'm going to do today.

[Ashley Long]

And how do you know until you die, right?

[Dez Jordan]

How do you know for sure if it ain't going to kill you, do it. And just to get out there, do your research. But I know don't get overwhelmed because there's so much research out there, but get a coach as well. A lot of people that I've heard, a lot of millionaires, an accountant lady I spoke to in the food truck line, she was like, I didn't realize how many millionaires and billionaires had ten different coaches teaching different aspects of life. And sometimes it's hard to get outside of ourselves when we're in the situation.

[Jared Easley]

Okay, you mentioned something earlier that resonated with me. You said hang out with rich people. Okay. I want to hang out with rich people.

[Dez Jordan]

That's the goal. That is the goal.

[Jared Easley]

I want to hang out with Ashley. Seriously, how do you hang out with rich people?

[Dez Jordan]

Honestly, I haven't figured that out yet.

[Ashley Long]

I'm not at events like this.

[Dez Jordan]

That's the first walking around because I have my own limiting mindset as well. We're all human, and I first have to start doing things for myself, which I learned in that big keynote that we attended earlier. It was a huge eye opener for me. It's been a couple of, you know, when you get the wizard called, when you start seeing things and it's the same thing being spoken to you like little pieces of candy that I don't know, I forgot what you call it. But I've been seeing those little moments throughout this whole time telling me the same theme about my life as far as getting out there, focusing on myself and putting more effort into myself, because we're all givers, that's why we're here. But sometimes we forget to look in ourselves. So I started with FINCOM, and I was like, you know what I'm going to do for myself? Hang out with very like minded people. Because your everyday people, like family, friends, you could talk to them about this all day, they don't get it. But if you start being around people of your same nature and then moving up from there, that's kind of my goal, because being around all these people, they are like kind of rich for real.

[Ashley Long]

And obviously not just rich, like financial talking about rich and mindset and spirit and all that, too, because obviously the person you spoke with before, just do a conversation, help to transform thoughts for you.

[Dez Jordan]

Sure did. That's awesome. Yeah, different rich, different kinds of riches.

[Jared Easley]

Yeah, not all of us can just go to Italy.

[Dez Jordan]

You know what, listen, all right, my ticket was paid for. I have a beautiful boss, and it was paid for by her.

[Jared Easley]

Okay? All right. It doesn't kill you, right? Just go for it. Just hit up your friends for trips to Italy anyway. Okay? So, yeah, as we continue this conversation, because this is an interesting journey. I think that we just had excellent coaching, by the way.

[Dez Jordan]

Really?

[Ashley Long]

Thank you so much.

[Jared Easley]

And Ashley has really poured out her heart and been vulnerable, so I have to commend you. So in the spirit of that, we'll just keep going here. Let's just start with who is doing something. It doesn't have to be in the finance space, but just in general. Who's doing something that interests you?

[Ashley Long]

What do you mean?

[Jared Easley]

Someone that you look up to. Someone that you see and be like, hey, I like the way they do this, or I like the fact that they considered this with whatever. Just somebody that you look up to.

[Ashley Long]

Oprah.

[Jared Easley]

Oprah. Oprah. You like Oprah, but why do you like Oprah?

[Ashley Long]

I think everybody could use Oprah, right? For me, it's Oprah, because, again, coming from media, I got my degree in journalism. I work for a media company for the majority of my career so far. I really love that space. I love the fact that Oprah has been able, even throughout her career, to not only for you to give back, but to live with such purpose and intention and let that drive her so beyond, like, the wealth and all of that. I just think Oprah seems like such a great person, a great spirit, and lives in what it was that she was brought and meant to do in this world. So there's so much for me to look up to with Oprah, but specifically, her being in media and television space makes her journey for me, one that I aspire to.

[Jared Easley]

What about you, Dennis? You can't say oprah.

[Dez Jordan]

No, mine wasn't oprah. But shout out to everybody. That's everybody. Oprah is everybody's people. But mine, I would say the biggest one recently would be Steve Harvey.

[Jared Easley]

Okay.

[Dez Jordan]

The reason why it's Steve Harvey is because he's so authentic, he's so real. I see a piece of, like, bougie and ghetto in him and I love it. I'm not going to lie. I love it. It resonates with me, and it shows that someone my color, someone that has been through the trenches, have been through problems, has gone from something to nothing, back to something, proves that it's possible for anybody. And that is so inspirational. He has such a big heart for everybody. He tells his story and I just see, like and even with my own family, I see him and I'm like, if he could do it, my family can do it. If he can do it, I can do it. So it's just one of those where it's like, he got it.

[Jared Easley]

All right, this is a question that I'm going to post to both of you. Start with Ashley. Ashley, what do you say to someone if they come up to you and say, I'm feeling stuck.

[Ashley Long]

Oh, my gosh, me too. What day? I guess it would depend on probably the relationship I have with them. The first thing I probably do is ask them questions like, what are you stuck with? What is it you're struggling with? Because we all have our struggles. I really just started my therapy journey at the end of last year, so therapy is something I definitely encourage everybody to try sure. And see if it can make a difference, especially when it comes to your mindset and things that you've struggled with, because it's so easy. Like, you keep talking about references, the family. I love my family, I love my friends, but they do not necessarily have a perspective that is always going to help me because they know too much about me. Right?

[Dez Jordan]

Sure.

[Ashley Long]

Do. They're coming with their own biases, or.

[Dez Jordan]

They think they do experiences.

[Ashley Long]

There you go. And they're not necessarily looking at it in the same way. So it will really depend on my relationship, what it is they're stuck with. But I think I would try to ask some questions, try to help if I could.

[Dez Jordan]

So just like we heard earlier, ask a lot of questions. Like she said, the why if someone came to me and they're like, I'm stuck. Listen, as a coach, well, actually, I'm not even going to get to the point of asking you 1001 questions. I just want you to talk. Go ahead. Because you're going to expose your own and then people have their own light bulb moment without even knowing it. So I'd be like, okay, you're stuck. Okay. I'll ask maybe, why are you stuck? Or what's going on? I'll ask that. What's going on? And then as they're speaking, they start to expose a lot of and it could be 10,000 things, but usually a common theme in their mind as they're speaking. And so my job is just to point it out. Okay, you probably mentioned ten things, but I think it's this theme here. And they're like, oh, well, and then we can go from there as a fix in the situation.

[Jared Easley]

Well said. Another question for both of you, again, starting with Ashley. As you've been on this journey, and you're making these pivots, you're making these adjustments, you got some exciting things that you're looking forward to. Sometimes you listen to interviews, and you'll hear them question like, what was your AHA moment? I don't want to know your AHA moment. I want to know your moment. Have you ever had an uhoh moment? And if so, tell us about it.

[Ashley Long]

Oh, man. So moving to Orlando, I had an uh moment for a minute because even though I was still in the same career path, the job that I had before, I felt like I had a lot more flexibility in terms of growth. And I think when it comes to career growth, it's always been something I've been really passionate and interested in, because I don't like to be stagnant. I like to be able to be not necessarily a jack of all trades, master of none, because that's not true, but just have my hands on a lot of things. When I moved here, I felt very stagnant. So I was like, oh, shit, can I cut some this podcast? Yes.

[Dez Jordan]

Okay.

[Ashley Long]

I was like, oh, shit. Did I make the wrong decision? Did I not make the best career move that I could have that was going to set me up for a better position in the future? But I think even during those moments, you have to kind of move through the uncertainty or the pain of it and figure out, well, if this is a decision I made and it had to have been for a reason, I've been put on this path for a reason. I need to make the best of this situation. And absolutely I did. And it came with so many blessings unexpectedly that I didn't think were necessarily going to come. So even with the moment you move through wow. Heartfelt.

[Jared Easley]

Heartfelt.

[Dez Jordan]

I always appreciate people for sharing.

[Jared Easley]

Don't move to Orlando.

[Dez Jordan]

Right.

[Ashley Long]

That is not the moral of that story. Especially for all the Disney Universal lovers.

[Dez Jordan]

Out there, the window is the place to be.

[Jared Easley]

Don't cuss, please. Go ahead. I'm just kidding.

[Dez Jordan]

I'm sorry. Listen, I was real close, letting it loose based off of what you were saying, even in those moments, I think we all find that positive to look into it. So for me, it'd probably be when Koba happened and school shut down and I was in college, and I think I'm in my three and a half, four years, who knows? Because hopefully messed up everything.

[Ashley Long]

So can you imagine having been in college during Cold? It was born interrupting that experience.

[Dez Jordan]

It was fun at the time.

[Jared Easley]

Then you just had to sit at home.

[Dez Jordan]

It was turned at the time, don't get me wrong, because it was like, what? We out of school, what turn up? But then it became really especially for the schools that were not meant to be online. And they became online. It became a struggle. And apparently my GPA dropped because of it. Nor do I think that's fair. And so I had to take a pause from school until next year. And that was my moment. And I beat myself up so much because of it. And I was like, oh, what am I going to do now? This is like the biggest thing I want to do. I will feel like a failure if I don't finish school. And then I spoke to one of the people who was my mom because I thought she was going to be so disappointed in me. You know what I mean? I'm just one of myself. You don't even got to beat me up about it. Okay? But when I tell you all, she was so like the first thing, she was like this. I'm not even going to say what middle name is. I'm not going to expose myself like that. But she liked to call me that. And she was like, relax. Do you know that you do everything for everybody? Like, you are doing a great job. Do not beat yourself up about pausing on school for a minute, because I really thought that it was the end of the world. I got depressed for a little bit, but in that moment and just realizing like, oh, my God, what the hell do I do now? I had a good job. I started coaching already, so it wasn't like I didn't have anything to fall on.

[Ashley Long]

But it was still like, this is.

[Dez Jordan]

Something I wanted to do for me. I didn't come this far just to give up now, and I'm not going to let them throw me down. So in that I saw the light of it and it was just like, okay, it's going to be okay. It's not in the world. I can still go back and do it.

[Jared Easley]

Yeah. I haven't gone to Virginia. Just end up back in Jacksonville.

[Dez Jordan]

Right? What?

[Jared Easley]

That's her story. Okay. All right, ladies, you've been very generous with your time, very proud of both of you. I'm grateful that you're willing to share, and it's very likely that people are going to want to connect with you online. So Des will start with you. And then, Ashley, what was the best place for people to connect with you online?

[Dez Jordan]

Oh, listen. Okay, listen. My instagram is destination coaching. So destination as in where you bought to go, which is my page, and then coaching as in coaching. And then as an underscore, you could also connect with me on a destination coaching on my TikTok as well. I'm going to start growing that because people love my adulting tips, apparently. So those are the main two places that you can connect with me. Awesome.

[Ashley Long]

I am on Instagram. I have to think about this at a long life lived. I know it's a little bit of a mouthful. Podcast again at recap and podcast. And then because I'm a little old, I do have a LinkedIn. So if you want to connect with me on LinkedIn, ashley long appreciate you and thank you.

[Dez Jordan]

Jared.

[Jared Easley]

I was just about to ask for desert LinkedIn, but now I'm scared as well.

[Dez Jordan]

I believe it should be destiny Jordan or destination coaching. One of those. It's either my whole name fair enough.

[Ashley Long]

Or is that youth do LinkedIn? So that's why I do that.

[Dez Jordan]

Well, the college students do.

[Ashley Long]

Okay.

[Dez Jordan]

And then the business folk.

[Ashley Long]

Okay.

[Dez Jordan]

Yeah.

[Jared Easley]

Okay. I'm glad that both of you fall in that category. Okay. We always close out with final thoughts. We're going to start with you. Des will end with you. Ashley, final thoughts. People that are listening, they need that final nugget, that thing that's going to push them over the edge. What's your final thought?

[Ashley Long]

Come on, coach.

[Dez Jordan]

Oh, my God.

[Ashley Long]

Come on, coach.

[Dez Jordan]

You know what? I'm going to keep what I said earlier. If it. Ain't going to kill you. Do it. You only live once. Life is not promised tomorrow. Don't let your fear stop you. And I say this for me as well. This is for me to look back on and tell myself this. So I'm speaking to future days and I'm speaking to everybody out there that's afraid of something.

[Ashley Long]

I can curse. Love it. I was literally going to say no operating fear. But now I got a pivot. No, I just think first of all, get back outside, everybody. I know it's been a tough like two plus years in terms of the pandemic, in terms of everything, but there are a lot of great things still going on again, events like this, events like vancouver to get out to the network to meet people, learn how to be social again. Yeah. I can feel like life was kind of on pause and even when we first connected the first day, I was like I get a little awkward now in big social situations again because it's like how long do you maintain eye contact with people again? I've forgotten it's been that long. I'm a remote worker. So just move past that, move through that and get back outside because it's a lot going on. Live your best life period.

[Jared Easley]

And my final thought would be to put on pants if you've been working at home.

[Ashley Long]

Lord god, I'm not wearing pants. But sure.

[Dez Jordan]

Listen, that was not wearing pants.

[Jared Easley]

She doesn't wear pants. If it doesn't kill you, don't wear pants. Ladies, thank you so much. That's wishes to you. I look forward to maybe chatting again down the road in your progress.

[Dez Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Ashley Long]

Thank you so much.

[Dez Jordan]

Thank you. Pleasure.